So what do you think, John?

Well, uh, anti-Israeli, yes, check the box.

Anti-Italian, why didn't he march in the Columbus Day Parade? Uh, anti-Italian, check the box.

He left Little Italy off the map.

Uh, he's not the unifier.

He, he is not, and it's clear as day.

You know, look at, look at his DSA.

Um, I wanted to, before you have to go, Chief Chell, what were your thoughts about the, uh, the governor's debate?

Yeah.

And now you're gonna come out, and you're gonna protect a Trinitario gang member that's pulling machetes, like you said, robbing people in the street, terrorizing the Bronx.

The Trinitarios are the worst gang in New York City.

What they've inflicted on the city over years is, is unconscionable, yet this is who the Democrats are going to protect over law enforcement.

It's hypocritical, it's an election year, and all they're doing is performing for clicks.

That's what this is about.

They let him out, and now you got a dead cop, other individuals dead as a result of this.

Again, Democratic city, weak on crime, bad reform up here.

But the top two or three things that you would wanna fix, John Shell, if in fact you won this race right away.

away.Look, number one, public safety.

We need more cops, and public safety, if you believe the quote-unquote numbers, there's more to numbers.

There's quality of life.

Number two, public housing in the city.

Three hundred and twenty-five thousand residents in public housing with eighty billion in, in, in capital projects needed.

Why are they living that way? Number three, fiscal accountability.

You want him there?

Go ahead

... you know, we can't, uh, shut down Rikers Island.

And, and, and I know we're building borough-based jails.

That's gonna take an eternity.

Let, let's be honest here, okay? I don't believe that, how can the buses be free, yet we lose $1 billion in transit because people jump the turnstile? How can we villainize capitalism? You wanna raise taxes on people who sh- guys like me and us, who, who, who are just making it, right? You wanna raise tax- taxes to pay for all this f- free stuff, if you will.

I, I, I just disagree with it.

Now, we have to be benevolent.

... a safe city, nobody's gonna come here.

What is this going to look like from a police standpoint all day?

Well, this is going to be massive.

You just talked about the potential crowds that are going to be coming in, and most of the crowds you'd like to think are coming to this to really celebrate, but no doubt about it, there'll be an element of criminals coming here, whether it be individuals or wolf packs, if you will.

They will be around.

But in terms of what the NYPD is going to take, they are mirroring New Year's Eve, and they're saying it's going to be bigger than New Year's Eve in terms of deployment of police officers.

They're expecting to deploy about over 10,000 New York City police officers on that route.

They're going to pull out every piece of apparatus they have.

Is that a fair statement?

I know retirement is relatively fresh, but it wasn't too long ago when you guys were there, when Eric Adams, the former mayor, says, "We're gonna add five thousand more cops." What would that have put you at, and what did, uh, Mayor Mamdani decide to do?

Well, the five thousand w- would've kind of broke even because what happens is, you hire five thousand, but you lose four thousand, so the, the net gain, the thousand...

The net gain of a thousand would've helped.

It would've, it would've got us around thirty-five thousand and change.

But now if you're saying, "Okay, I'm not hiring the five thousand that Eric put on the table," now the question becomes: Is he going to hire anybody? Because like I said yesterday to you, they lost three hundred in January.

Four thousand have been eligible to retire as of January first.

When you net that out, let's just say he doesn't hire anybody, and you lose four thousand, you're down to thirty-one.

And they said he should not have shot him.

Give me some specifics on what you see happening.

Well, just look, first look at his rhetoric.

Uh, he, he, he's no fan of the police department by, by his own words.

When you hear his rhetoric about he wants to maintain staffing levels.

Well, what does that mean? We're, we're already down 1,000 cops and about 3,800 change can leave in January.

So he doesn't want to hire more cops and we need more cops.

Look at his rhetoric as it relates to crime.

Generally speaking, how did the police see this?