yeah so let's go back a little bit to orvis um obviously i think most people are familiar with orvis uh been around a long time do a lot of different things a lot of different products um but um you know they maybe talk a little bit more about you know the the facility there and what they offer and in what you what you kind of dig in and do there

yeah so i mean kind of a short history is um the the facility where I work is actually the first licensed shooting preserve in the country.

It was privately owned since 1907, I think is when the license was issued.

It was a private pheasant hunting preserve.

It wasn't an estate.

It was an estate where the owner's friends would come up and shoot birds, come out of the city.

And he had a big estate up here in Millbrook.

I guess let's talk about, we talked a little bit about what you do, but like kind of your methods and style, um, you know, maybe if we're talking specifically retriever stuff, like what's your kind of method and go to what are you focusing on with them?