W- where do you think we are today?

I think generally we're in a much more positive position than we were prior to the, the new legislation coming in force.

I think it's important to remember why it was brought in and, and, and simply it's to protect our community in around those places where they, they meet in more numbers than others.

Crowded place is a term that's very familiar with security professionals, and identifying those locations and looking for various levels of protective security.

And I, I think quite often with, with new legislation, and it, it can be quite intimidating new legislation, particularly when you have if, uh, the SIA in effect who are regulators and you have enforcement processes, it can be quite intimidating.

But my experience of, of a legislation like this is that government and regulators understand the journey that everybody's on.

It's about common sense and practical applications, and the whole purpose of the act was to look at what is best practice out there and try and bring people up to a level of consistency where the public are perceived most at risk.

So there's people that have gone, "Well, I, I've been doing this for, for ten-plus years already, Steve, just under a different guise." And you probably sat within that within your government roles.