Who would have to have access to the explosives and to the microphone set up for all of this to work? Are you looking at people inside of Turning Point USA? Would we be looking for somebody that would be tied to defense contractors? Would we look for somebody who is foreign intelligence or some mix of all of the above?

I don't think that you even really have to have a lot of involvement of Turning Point.

They're not a very tight organization.

They traveled with these microphones, so they were probably in their check-on bags.

Someone could have about five to ten minutes access of these devices and they can modify them and put them back in a fashion that no one would be aware of it.

you know, the devices could have been modified, you know, years in advance.

So as far as for the first time we've seen Charlie use those microphones to the point of the September 10th, any time in between they could have been accessed and modified.

So quickly tell your story, where you came from, how you ended up where you are now, what you're doing, how you're helping people, including this network.

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too, right? Yeah, absolutely.

He would need to be almost... touching the edge of the roof with the tip of the rifle to be able to get line of sight there it's a little over five degrees down and so you know without being right on the edge there's no way that you could uh get a lot he could shoot straight across but obviously you know they're They're telling us that he shot at the courtyard.

And the courtyard is cherished.

It goes lower than the ground level.

And the building is 60 feet tall.

So he's having to cover 75 plus feet of differential down.

What are your hopes with all the evidence that you've – I mean, this is an amazing website, followtheepicenter.com. What are your hopes for compiling all of this?

So that round impacted the tree?

It went through the leaves of the tree.

Yeah, the outer edge of the tree kind of where, you know, it was a bit overgrown and the thinner branches of it, it was still fall.

So the leaves are still there and they were dry.

So, you know, they hadn't quite fallen off, but they had definitely turned color already.

So when that supersonic projectile passed through that area, it basically turned those leaves into confetti already.

And then the best audio and the best video from that event come from the UVU review, which they were also on that balcony level, but the balcony level kind of is a 90-degree angle, and they were out on the balcony edge of it, so closer to the tent area, but still 47 meters from the tent, so a good distance away from the tent, but closer to the tent than this eyewitness account.

And so you listen to kind of the

Like, how do you account for that?

And those are both very good questions.

And a family of analysis kind of has provided the answer to those.

First was the trajectory.

How does an object underneath his right collarbone have the line of sight to be able to impact his left neck? And the answers from that come from the videos that are from Charlie's right side.

One of the videos is shot almost over his right shoulder, almost behind him.

The other one is directly to a slide slightly in front of him.

Accurate, meaning like, did they mean for that to happen or were they trying to do something else to either send a message or actually kill him?

But w- do you have any comments upon these supposed debunkers, uh, and their origins and their motives? Uh, and do I have that right? Are there more than two or three of them?

Yeah.

I- it's a group of them, and generally, they use the same sort of logic, which is solid logic.

It's just misapplied.

So they're, they're looking for recoil action.

Well, the recoil action is in the shrapnel.

We, we see the recoil of the detonation through the shrapnel that was ejected from the, the microphone case.

Do I have that right?

I didn't know you had thought that initially.

Yeah, so I originally made my first pipeline to use the deformation of the panel to identify where the bullet struck because the way the panel deflects, and kind of deforms, it gives you an idea of where the energy, the epicenter of the energy was.

And so my first coding was to identify where the bullet struck the soft panel.

And immediately when I started running it, I realized before I even got my first run in, I realized, A, that he didn't have a soft panel on that day.

We started getting high resolution pictures of him right before the event.

And he's out in the event.

you know, throwing hats and immediately sits down.

millimeter, uh, equivalent gauge to, uh, three 57, uh, uh, close to that diameter which is generally in in most i'm an old firearms instructor for a long time is the the best stopper the best kinetic deliverer uh for speed uh and kinetics so the and what about the battery you were saying something about the battery