
John Bonitz
John Bonitz is Clean Transportation Project Manager at the North Carolina Clean Energy Technology Center (NCSU) and a Towns of Pittsboro commissioner focused on commercial fleet electrification.
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Aug 18, 2026
#174: Rethinking What It Takes to Electrify Fleets with NCSU
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13:08Sarah MalpeliHOST
But when you're talking about some of the level one fleets, what kinds of fleets would, would benefit from that system, especially here in the state of North Carolina?

John BonitzGUEST
So within North Carolina, there are probably five hundred and... maybe five hundred and twenty-five small towns, less than fifty thousand in population.

John BonitzGUEST
And of those, I estimate that only three actually have one or more electric vehicles.

John BonitzGUEST
What's interesting about that is that, uh, I think it's evidence of what I hear anecdotally a lot.

John BonitzGUEST
Municipal managers or public works directors or, or fleet managers say, "Oh, we can't, we can't consider electrifying our fleet because we can't afford twenty to fifty thousand dollars per level two charger installation," not to mention the cost of the EV, which in some cases is higher.

John BonitzGUEST
In many cases, uh, they're, they're at price parity with ICE vehicles, uh, internal combustion engine vehicles, especially if one considers the near-term maintenance costs for those vehicles.

John BonitzGUEST
So getting away from total cost of ownership, back to the question of the opportunities for charging at level one, I, I, I think they're there.
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