Was it typical Scotland, or was it more? W- did you see something more?

Um, I think that's probably part of it, and that, that's kind of the part, the frustration of it, is that's what people will think, and that's, uh...

But unfortunately, that kind of plucky losers or play well one week, play poorly the next also.

But I don't think they did play poorly.

Um, I think we've spoken about, everybody keeps saying it's the hardest place in the world to go at, at the moment, isn't it? To go to South Africa, altitude, travel, and they had, what, six days there before, I'm guessing.

And I thought they played brilliantly and kinda in the hardest circumstances, but in, it kinda highlighted, in my mind, just how brutal test match rugby is.

Like, you switch off for two minutes and you score, you, you concede two tries, and that happened a couple times in the game.

I mean, how, how much pressure on Australia to start delivering something that gets all of Australia interested rather than just those that know and love their rugby?

What's your overriding emotion, John, when you look at Wales for this Six Nations?

If you'd asked me that question after two weeks, I would be a very different answer.

But in terms of like, it's been so hard.

We sat here for a couple years now, haven't we? And said, you know, it's been down in the dumps and you made a good point.

Sometimes you can keep kicking them.

I've been so impressed by how they've stuck together.

By how they've stayed together through a really disappointing start, through what they've been through and...

really that's crazy