Why is that there and what has to be in place for these tactics to be effective?

Everything has to be in place for that to work.

You don't have a clear manifesto.

If you don't have good practices of fiercely pursuing the truth, if you don't have clarity around how people show up, right people in the room, the right team, et cetera, if accountability is not really very clear to people in general, it's going to be hard to have a war room that's characterized by people comfortable enough to debate.

The beauty, I think, of tough enough leaders is that they encourage debate.

That's the human side.

I mean, I like to win debates too.

So be selective about where

you're talking about.

It is.

And that was one of the reasons why we closed our embassy.

So you should have really given this a lot of thought and know what you're up to.

I think this Iran, this regime in Iran is just the modern face of evil.

Its nuclear program, one of the cornerstones of Canadian foreign policy is nuclear nonproliferation.

We can't allow them to weaponize their nuclear program.

In which case, if you were the foreign minister today, what would you be whispering in the air of the prime minister to tell him to do in terms of what Canada could contribute to this?