what a great evolution of your name that's great story um what were those first few years like in the early 80s after you formed Europe

Yeah, I met John Norum.

He played in a band called WC, which is Water Closet, so basically toilet.

They weren't toilet, though.

They were very good.

And John Norum really blew me away.

I was in other bands.

Can you tell us about this album? What's this one feel like? What can we expect?

yeah i bet what um how does it even start now because it's the first album i think in like nine years yeah you guys book ahead like next year the summer of next year we're all going to get a a cabin in the fjords and we're going to come together we're going to write an album we're not going to come out till an album's done or do you just think what sounds like a great idea it kind of does so that's why i'm wondering like how do you when do you how do you decide to do this People have good ideas or what?

Yeah.

No, but this one took time.

The thing with this, you know, the previous three albums was Bag of Bones, War of Kings, and Walk the Earth.

And they were made with the legends.

I mean, Kevin Shirley and Dave Cobb.

I mean, the amazing producers.

being scandinavian was there is it like a an o to where you're from what what was the inspiration for

ideas or what?

Yeah.

No, but this one took time.

The thing with this, you know, the previous three albums was Bag of Bones, War of Kings, and Walk the Earth.

And they were made with the legends.

I mean, Kevin Shirley and Dave Cobb.

I mean, the amazing producers.

for innocent souls maybe don't fall into those Scandinavian eyes being Scandinavian was there is it like a An ode to where you're from? What was the inspiration for