who

taught me an enormous amount and really turned the ship and where I wanted to go.

Because one of the days we were cleaning the stalls, he brought up a guy named Hal Markowitz and said, tell me what you know about Hal Markowitz.

I said, I've never heard of Hal Markowitz.

And he said, you need to leave the barn and don't come back until you can tell me about Hal Markowitz.

So luckily I was working education at the time, so I had access to the zoo's library.

So I went over to the zoo's library, asked my boss, like, who is Hal Markowitz? Like, can you give me resources? Because I'm not allowed back in the barn.

And have you come up with any things that you're using for anything yet? Or that you're going to be trying, you said, looking at the box that's directly in front of him? Yeah, so

Like what's that journey like for an organization or for your organization? Yeah, so we didn't

have a plan aside from just trying to meet people where they're at.

So we have eight teams in our zoo, and they're not all collecting data every day.

We have an enormous amount of data for a lot of different species.

You could argue we're not putting a dent in the number of animals we have across the zoo.

We have to be careful with the resources that we have because we can't do it all right now.

we are not at a place where we have the bandwidth to scale to a full zoo.

And are you able to share those stories with the listeners?