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Um, and my, my passion, of course, was singing and acting.

So, um, at first I kind of resented the place 'cause I was like, oh, this isn't what I thought it was gonna be and I'm not a dancer.

I don't wanna dance.

And, um, but then because of my singing and acting, I got a little bit more attention, I guess, and it made me work harder.

It made me realize, okay, well, when I do graduate, my training has to just continue, um, with me alone, and that came in the form of going to class all the time.

When I fir- when I got my first West End job, beautiful, um- I was a swing on it, so fortunately I wasn't tired all the time, so I was, I didn't go on for the first two months of the run.

Okay

Yeah.

Much research as possible.

And then it went really well on the Monday when it was just me, the director and the writer and the music team.

And then they called me back for the next day to meet Tina and obviously singing Frank songs to his daughter and telling...

Because the story does talk about public Frank, but mainly it's domestic Frank, what he's like as a dad, what he's like with his wife and talks about his affairs.

Yeah.

So doing those scenes, which are quite sensitive, and Frank is cheating on his wife and leaving his family, to do those scenes in front of his daughter was quite, oh, God.

How do I put this?

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I didn't really feel like I had a connection back then, but as I, as I've gotten older, like, uh, there's, there's many links, um, in, in our character.

Um, but yeah, my, my favorite song that I don't sing, um, as much I'm gutted about is, uh, I'm Gonna Live Till I Die.

I just love the sentiment of the song, and it's when Frank gets it all together, and it's like, "I am not going to sit and wallow.

I am going to make something of my life," and, and I think, uh, that's the main thing for me about the show.

Like, I think the, the main thing that I hope audiences take away is perseverance, resilience, uh, and just being relentless, and that is...

Frank is the epitome of all of those things.

Um, have any of your previous roles, like, set you up for this, or is it all completely different worlds?