So what would, okay, Joel, what's fundamentally the difference from the construction standpoint? What's the difference? I mean,

I don't know that there's fun, a fundamental difference necessarily.

Like it just, I think it has more to do with the amount of space or aesthetics.

Yeah.

Right.

Like it, you know, when I think about a bump out, I think like, well, like, like if somebody is trying to get more space, like four more feet for a kitchen, right.

You're bumping that wall out.

Well, that's not acceptable,

And then, so in construction on the renovation side, you're seeing that follow that, or are you still making great rooms, knocking walls

down? There are times, like...

Well, in remodeling, we're still getting into houses where people want walls removed, but maybe they're not removing as many walls where they're just opening everything up.

Just because, you know, like kitchens used to be smaller.

So maybe they're taking a wall out between a dining room and a kitchen, but there's still a wall that... there's still some sort of partition from the kitchen to the next room.

Now,

with...

With the material, the flashing materials and the package, the flashing packages with these, like, that's, a lot of that stuff's been worked out.

Didn't I say that? I was like, what

are you making a locker room? They have a shower.

It's like a 1990s set up.

Is it that big right now? There's that much room there.

There is a shower and then right beside it is like a garden tub.

Oh, so they're taking that garden tub out and extending the shower.

And they went on.

Then how do you do that?

But everything you do is hands-on.

So if you take a picture and you ask the right prompt, it will find stuff.

Because I'm sure people have put stuff out on the internet that...

Yeah, it'll like locate.

Deals with that.

But you have to have, you can't just use just any basic AI for that because you'll get a lot of slop with that too.

Yeah,

Correct.

I was like, well, but sometimes I guess you have that, right? Well,

top of mind, like, it's top of mind because I've got a good friend that is a contractor.

And actually, he coaches a football team with me.

And we were talking last night, and he was talking about how they've been in a planning...

Like, I don't know what you would call it, purgatory for like two years.

Really? Yeah, because the architect keeps changing things.

Architects changing things? Yeah.

And if you have a bank loan or you have a construction, that's

structural stuff I'm talking about, like not electrical or

structural.

Yeah.

I mean, some walls really aren't weight-bearing at all.

Right.

So you're not figuring a whole lot out in that situation other than spacing.

If you were to walk...

What limits, is it amps? What is the limiting?

Right.

You have your layout part, so it would be your widths and your depths.

More of a topical view of what you're building.

Your elevations is a side view so that you can see where does this window start from ground level or ceiling height.

Some of the elevations on a blueprint will show...

Like what insulation looks like in the roof.

Yeah, I mean, it can get really, really detailed.

yeah which makes sense because on the show i was watching they were doing they're like we have to drop our elevation into a topographical elevation so that we can see that this fits here like like it looks like it's supposed to be there and i think that makes a lot of sense so you're using the elevation though on the job too or is that where the blueprint comes in

What are they doing to the mortar that makes a tuck

pointing? Well, because you have these mortar joints, and if you're repairing them, oftentimes you're grinding some of it out, but then you're taking just a little tuck point tool, which is an extremely narrow trowel.

And you're using that, getting your mortar in the joint, so you're tucking it in there and

Well,

so trim is more of a broad, is more really a broad term for all of the different types of trim that will go into your house.

We'll call like base, like your base trim, we'll call that base molding.

There's panel moldings.

Those are different types of trim.

So do you have to block that and then-

Well, what we do is we get media filter and cover, cover registers with media filter to try to minimize as much.

Uh, we have, like, what we...

They're called air cleaners.

Like, they're a big HEPA.

Uh, for...

It's not necessarily a vac, but, like, it's a big HEPA filter with a tube that you can push, send, set out, you know, take the tube outside.

I mean, this is stuff that is important.