Joe, what was most surprising for you or fascinating for you about the ex- the kind of educational experience that you're having, and now the viewers are also gonna have?

Well, that's, you know, the educational experience was amazing actually, 'cause we spent some time, um, with paleontologists talking about the, the physicali- phys- physicality of these creatures and, and how they would move.

And, and, um, it's interesting 'cause you have so much respect for these paleontologists and you, and you want to be as accurate as you can because you don't want to, you know, you don't wanna frustrate them when they watch these things, but also you want...

You also have to think about, you know, tomorrow's paleontologists and make it entertaining piece for the family.

And, and so th- uh, often what we found was that, um, we would push, I think, to the very boundaries, the very edge of the-

And so how was it for you having these creatures be as realistic looking as possible from the information that you have, but also giving them enough personality but not over the top personality with what you're going for?

Well, that's, you know, so Tim was definitely a driving force in that.

And, um, and like I said, Lucy also was always there to make sure that just the nudges keep us on track, you know? And I think that what we tried to do was we...