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Sep 22, 2026
E261: Staying in the Game—Under His Own Terms, Guest, Joe Serpente
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9:21Ray LoeweHOST
Tell us a little bit about the kind of people that you're working with today and where you're headed and where you're going.
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9:33Joe SerpenteGUEST
And Ray, the interesting part of my change to where I am now to me was I first had to fail at this.
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9:44Joe SerpenteGUEST
And it wasn't so much failure with respect to the financial collapse or something like that.
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9:51Joe SerpenteGUEST
What it was was as I closed my agency and I began to follow the model that was starting of sending people home to do back in 2007, I had.
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