And it, and it was sort of telling what was gonna happen, and I think Joe did a really nice job, uh, in the edit sort of solving for all of it.

Yeah, so this was the scene where the, uh, tentacles explode out of the dog's face.

Uh, spoiler alert if you haven't seen the movie.

It's, uh, right outside the barn and, you know, it's really interesting.

I think sometimes, you know, you think a scene may be working, and then you're like, "Oh, it just feels a little slow.

Maybe we just need to put some music under it," and you try putting some score underneath something.

And it kinda reveals the fact that it's actually not that it didn't have score.

Joe, I don't know if you always had this syringe shot in your back pocket, but just tell me about when Zach comes to you and says, "You know," either just through his own instincts or through audience feedback, "We gotta redo the ending." How does that impact the two of you?

So they were thinking it was a hurdle instead

of a part.

So I got up.

I thought I was down there all day.

I got up in here.

And my two knees were bleeding, my head was.

I was shaking.

they had a

But in them sort of first 11 games, you kept, I think it was seven clean sheets, which is when you look at the league table at the final end of the season, it's pretty much the reason why we stayed up that year.

Yeah, it was really strange.

I obviously got the call from Brassy and I actually looked at the league form.

And then I looked at the squad.

And I thought, you've got three experienced goalkeepers there.

Why isn't this working? Why isn't it whatever, you know? And then I looked at the...

I spoke to Varnie because I've played with Varnie.

Who else was up

From your perspective, Joe, having worked there quite some time, what do you believe makes the site so attractive for a potential buyer?

I think there's obviously the physical aspects associated with it and the fact that, and I suppose from a pure timing perspective, we think now is a good time to start the marketing process because this is a journey.

You know, it's a journey that started maybe nearly eight or nine years ago with regard to what the end game was going to be on this.

We obviously have about a year and a half or so left in the actual project.

But as part of that, you know, we now decided to proactively look for potential international investors who may be prepared to establish a site here in Clare Castle.

As part of that, you know, we have, you know, there's the physical layout in relation to the location.

There are obviously strengths.

So, You know, yourselves, the IDA, local stakeholders, the council, do you have, are you targeting particular industries? You know, like Roche, would a pharmaceuticals company be ideal for the site? Or is it suitable for a wide range of businesses?

How did you get support of management to make the investment in training and everything else to start tackling a broader compliance initiative?

initiative?Well, there was a famous saying by, um, I think it was Ben Johnson in the UK, that nothing focuses a man's, uh, a man's attention like facing the hangman's noose in a fortnight.

And when I was in the old Bell System, we were subject to litigation.

We're a big target.

And so we, we'd be dealing with the EEOC.

We had a major antitrust case, and it has always been the case, always will be the case, that when the government comes at the door, all of a sudden people get religion.

And so, yes, we had good people in our company, but there was also very clear risk, um, in dealing with the government.

... got to know you

But why originally did you even think in your wildest dreams that a multilateral negotiation would be worth taking to stage.

What a great and deep and difficult question.

I mean, I don't think it takes us to say that these are really difficult times in multilateralism.

It also doesn't take us to say that it's really worth emphasising that it's human beings that operate the multilateral forums that we have.

But it was really interesting to us.

I mean, we set about this journey about three years ago.

We were really... concerned that this time that we were in had become a kind of age of disagreement, that we're really struggling to enter a process of agreement, of compromise, and that actually a story that valorised and put on a really important pedestal the idea of agreement might be a real contribution.

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