And, you know, I think about the guys that are on track with me, you know, what was, you know, whether even, even if you were just in the semi and necessarily weren't, you know, on the, you know, in, in the race with Dick, you know, what was it, what was it like kind of, you know, being out there and around, you know, those guys, you know, at that point were pretty big figures in, in racing at that point.

Well, Just like Dick, Tom, Marv, Jimmy Bach and all those guys, I thought those guys were like very good racers.

The stuff that I saw, you know, how they were on the track and how they handled each situation.

I mean, like me, they knew enough to watch out for me.

Yeah.

They knew that you were going to do something wrong.

They read all this stuff.

Sure.