Talk to me about why that fight in Russia, first of all, happened for you.

Obviously, I'd preferred it in the UK, but it's really tough to get a fight in the UK, like, So that was my only option was to fight in Russia.

Maybe if I was managed better, I might have more opportunities in the UK.

Especially my achievements, you know, amateur and pro, I thought I would have been able to nail down a fight.

But yeah, I obviously had to go to Moscow, Russia.

I was welcomed there.

It was good.

Don't get me cancelled.

It, it, it's relatively easy to charge, right?

Yes.

For all of the same reasons, um, that car electrics, electric cars are not going anywhere, um, the same thing holds true for lithium forklifts.

They are a great product for the customer.

Um, where I think the conflict comes in is how do we lease these assets, and are they a great asset for a fair market value leasing company? And we're still, you know, learning the answer to that question.

Like you said, Will, some folks will tell you, "These are a great asset, and you should be residual on that, re-residualizing them the same as you are traditional lead-acid forklifts." Other people will say, um, "You, you, you really can't put any value on these forklifts because they're not gonna hold any value in the secondary market, so all you're doing is shooting yourself in the foot on the front end." Um, I'm kind of somewhere in between.

Uh, where I kinda take the conversation is to, to salvage.

Is there one or two key takeaways that you want to impart to our audience, um, about the work that you do and, uh, that you would impress upon others as a takeaway?

Kind of picking up what you were talking about specifically about forklifts, Joe, What is it about forklifts that make them unique compared to other equipment that is commonly financed in our ELFA membership community?

Yeah, you know, forklifts are really unique in the sense that many of them are customized for their customer.

I like to use the car analogy.

It's kind of similar but different.

When you go to buy a car, there's a few options that you consider when you choose, after you choose the model of car that you want.

Do you want power windows? the certain type of trim, maybe they have an engine option, something like that.

When you purchase a new forklift, after you choose your model, the option process is much more extensive.

It's relatively easy to charge, right?

that's how winning is done yeah have you enjoyed your journey joe have you enjoyed like the the journey as a boxer has it been pretty stressful

no it's been it's know it's like what do you want to be when you grow up it's like i've done something you know something that i've enjoyed like enjoying and still enjoy you know i mean it's year in year out and you've got to keep plugging away and keep and there's obviously take criticism and all the other bits and pieces but you know on the whole it's been a great career and um i've enjoyed like you know, seeing different places, like traveling the world and learning new things and, you know, putting on a show.

It's been great.

yeah yeah no i did have um something else in terms of sugar um are there other who would you say you've learned the most from in terms of your boxing career as a coach is there one person that stands out above any other i

mean i've had some great coaches right um uh it's like obviously ismail salas um adam booth and um man why uh abel sanchez of course yeah obviously not in that that order i was like salas um abel sanchez adam booth and now sugar hill is a great you know each coach had all great coaches and each has different methods and um Yeah, I've had a great career, and in the amateurs as well, from Ellesfield to the GB team around the world, different coaches, Cuba and stuff.

So I've had a wealth of experience that I'd like to pass on one day.