it w- it, it was fascinating to see that, right? That it was a r- it was among the, uh, probably one of the very first community gardens I've ev- I ever saw in the Bay Area.

It was, it was wonderful.

Uh, Aiden's had a lot to do with that.

My friend Terry Compost was a, a woman that, um, had a lot to do with that.

Um, and you know, as we were working in the park and, and serving people, we came sometimes in conflict with the university.

One of the times was we wanted to find a way to stop taking all of our, our, um, uneaten food and the waste products back to the, um, the places where we cooked, and we asked the university for simple permission for Waste Management, the, you know, refuse company that serves the Bay Area, to come on the property.

We would pay for it.

What, what, what should we do? How can we fight back? What does it mean for you to keep going?