integrating your spiritual beliefs with probably a very conventional type of training to get the letters behind your name.

Right.

The training came late.

I didn't become a therapist until I started my degree program in 2017.

And so I actually spent a decade as an integrated circuit chip designer.

And then got an MBA and went into management and was leading a semiconductor development group.

And so very heavy engineering background.

How do you feel connection when you also feel this distance from a large group of people that you just don't feel like this is not what I want?

Mm

... that no one has shown you exactly how you're, how it's gonna work for you." And I also focus heavily on, you know, there's kind of the, the slower path, which I call the developmental path, and more this fruitional path of like, okay, so your mood isn't very good.

Is there anything going on in your mind besides your mood? Where's that? Like, we don't wanna wait because, you know, it can take...

And, and a lot of the most recent neuroscience around trauma is actually suggesting, you know, trauma may not be stored in the body the way we think.

It's not so much that the body has been changed by trauma.

It has been changed, but the mind is continually misinterpreting those signals to mean I'm still under threat right now.

Mm.

Yeah, I'm dealing with all this other madness and the madness of the world and the stress of the world, but you know what? I like who I am, and I'm being that person right now, and I can bring joy and peace to people in the craziest of times, and in myself.