Yeah.

Yeah, and so mine was really looking for something challenging, meaty, something that I could really sink my teeth into.

So if I wanted to do consulting or something like that, I decided to cover city government in Marysville.

And really what I did, we all have kind of like different formats, right? We have different formats.

So I'm a radio guy.

I started in radio 35, 40 years ago.

I was a radio news director at a radio station in Newark.

They have changed on that because there are reporters for the dispatch, or at least writing for the dispatch, that are at a Hilliard City Council meeting.