Is there a, a skill set within Liquid Stack that you think is most in demand right now? What do you find most challenging to identify and hire or identify and hire?

Well, first of all, it's, it's a huge issue in the industry right now, and if you look specifically at the liquid cooling segment, which is a, a whole separate dynamic in the industry, there's really only probably 500 to 1,000 people on the entire planet that understand liquid cooling well, and then there's another million that say they understand it, but they [laughs] really don't.

And, um, you know, one of the areas right now is on project deployment where, you know, you need skilled field service technicians and field service engineers to help clients deploy their projects.

Um, we have so many cases where clients are deploying liquid cooling for the first time and, uh, everybody, everybody talks a good talk going into the project, and then ultimately, um, time schedules are compressed and corners are being cut and mistakes are being made.

And of- oftentimes they fall back on the manufacturer as saying, "Well, your product's not working," or, "It's, it's not meeting specification." And we work with those clients to, to help them understand best practice, uh, how they're misapplying, um, the liquid cooling architecture or infrastructure, and ultimately it becomes a win-win.

So many of our, our existing clients keep coming back to Liquid Stack and Trane Technologies because we've helped them solve major issues in their initial deployments, and they've come to trust us as somebody that can be relied on both with product and service and technology.

But what does motivate you to keep going and keep contributing and, and, and what does the next, I don't know, two, three, four, five years look like for you and for Liquid Stack and Trane?

Well, first of all, [clears throat] since the acquisition, I've had a lot of colleagues and, and people that I know in the industry ask me, um, "Are you gonna retire? Are you gonna hang it up?" And I'm like, "Are you crazy?" Like, this is- An epic period in tech and specifically in the data center industry.