I mean, you've got obviously all those credentials, but like what is from the green notebook and how, how have you used it?

Yeah, I guess I'll go back.

So I joined the Army in 2004, graduated from college in December of 03.

And, you know, like I really didn't know what I wanted to do.

I just know I wanted to be in the military.

And so one of the things in the military that we get issued, it's in our supply rooms, is this government, the government issued green notebook.

You know, it's free.

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Welcome to another episode of From the Green Notebook.

I'm your host, Joe Byerly, and today I'm sitting down once again with my friend, New York Times bestselling author, Ryan Holiday.

This conversation is a little different for me.

It's my third time interviewing Ryan, but my first time since we started working together last summer.

After 20 years in the Army, stepping into the world of writing a book has been a completely new experience.

At 44, I find myself very much an apprentice again, proof that growth never stops, which is one of the central themes of Ryan's latest book, Wisdom Takes Work.

We'll keep it rolling