The most important part,

we were talking about my music career, right? Right.

Its impact or lack of impact, but how important that was for me to learn the business.

Yeah, but equally, if not more important, was I had to learn me.

I was learning me throughout all of those years.

What worked for me? What didn't work? How did all of these different things make me feel? How did I react and respond when met with these feelings? Because I've always been the ticking time bomb.

I've always been the one to implode or make a decision or self-sabotage or just erupt somewhere.

By who?

as far as like pathways and studios and stuff like that? i

think however you can get in wherever you can get it get it like i love this shit the gym built here of course i love all the content how shit they do in la i love the streamer way which is just y'all i'm in my bedroom on a fucking gaming chair like the creative part is is how you using the tech that's available to you right i don't really care about your set if you got the money to invest in the set then awesome to me i had a couch and a plant and a couple mics and a shoe box you really didn't have no room to even fit cameras so you had to build to that stuff i like just seeing build to some first thing you said when i walked in here yo look different right yeah it looked different it looked different looks great in here

that's definitely real talk man

Shit, I'll add to that.

I'll add to what you're saying, because I agree.

I see a future where most of these people's kids and grandkids will have no choice but to be in content creation.

Why you say that? Because it's just the way that the world is going.

It's just the way that the world is going.

[laughs]

There we go.

There we go.

So, you know.

I agree with y'all, though.

I just think, uh, like, like, like Troy said, that their body's not as calloused, you know, a- as it was back in the day.

Like, bro-

Mm

[laughs]

[laughs] Man, I like that.

Man, I would like to put $5,900, 50, 5900 down towards something, Joe.

You know, you put it on layaway, Joe.

[laughs] Hey, listen, I, uh, I ain't gonna lie to y'all, I don't really know how I feel about it.

Uh-

Yeah.

Uh, I don't think Floyd gonna get in that ring unless he knows that he can be somewhat, Unc and Ocho, of what he's been.

Yeah

... already, because that's where the eyes were, and that was back since way back.

So now, right, you have ...

Somebody over there should have seen so many stars.

They should've so- they should have seen the, the, the kids doing baby music.

They should have seen the lo-fi, the lo-fi music channel guy.

They should have saw the, the, the ...

The Complex Show, Everyday Struggle, how did that show change your life?

Oh-

All I wanted was independence.

All I wanted was to cut out all of these political talking heads and execs that don't know me or my music and don't really care.

Everybody had a different interest other than who I was, and I learned that at the time.

So I, I spent years fighting for independence, to get out of a bad recording contract, to get out of a bad publishing contract or contracts that just didn't suit me or reflect the market as time went on.

Yeah, correct.

Um, and there'll be a lot of success there.

Uh, what else do I see in five to 10 years? I see growth.

[laughs]

So yeah, today in, in my 40s, yeah, let's, let's work out.

Let's walk.

Let's jog.

Let's hit the treadmill.

Let's...

The, the money shit, once you make a couple dollars, you know how to make a couple dollars.

Yeah.

Slender Man?

And he said, "Hey, man, can I ask, can I ask you for some advice?" I said, "Sure, man.

Go ahead." And he's like, "What makes you go? Like, when you're feeling down..." You know, as a creative, you self-doubt, all types of shit kicks in.

He said, "When you're feeling down, when you're just not in the mood, when you got things going on, when you're not into it, how do you find the strength to get out of bed and go do it?" And I looked, I had to tell, "I love this shit, man.

I absolutely love this shit.

Like, I could do this shit forever.

I could get up.

Yeah.

I can't reach.

NoDan, after you drunk that whole-

Wait, my drink.

'Cause just m- just reactionary, you're like, "Are you tired of this shit?" Nah.

Like, I love it still.

I love, I love going to do the shows and seeing all the fans.

Yo, when I was doing, going...

Uh, not to bring this up again, but when I was doing the back and forth with, uh, Drake, and Roy-