By all accounts, that officer was a great guy and good at his job, but his decision to allow Henry inside the crime scene may not have been the best idea.

Because if Henry was, in fact, involved, one of the things we have to prove was that he was there.

Well, we brought him there, so of course he was there.

And in the crime scene, the thing about a crime scene is if you were at a crime scene, you always leave something behind, and you always take something with you.

Okay? That's a reality of, of the nature of, of crime scenes.

A hair might fall out.

You know, you probably lost 10 hairs today.

Mm-hmm.

But with respect to flock cameras, isn't that the choice of every unit of government, every municipality and state with respect to state roadways and property to make that decision, to make that decision as to whether or not they want to use them?

Well, I think, again, I go back to the argument about NCIC.

I mean, NCIC is a nationwide database that has rules about how an agency in one state can access information in another state.

The states like Massachusetts, for example, have much more restrictive criminal history access rules than some other states do.

So even though the history might be an NCIC, it may not necessarily be put there by Massachusetts because they have more restrictive statutes.

So it's not taking away...

the you know the state or local authority but what it's doing is sort of codifying you know general access requirements as you pointed out you know offices running uh you know licenses to check and see how their girlfriend wife ex-wife may be doing uh you know completely inappropriate and there should be some significant consequences not just department issues and and one other thing i'd point out my agency went through a period of time where we were dealing with a a police chief who probably shouldn't have been in the position.

And but immigration enforcement, you know, why not give federal law enforcement access to these tools to make their jobs easier and safer if we're doing it at the state and local level? I I've never understood the

Yeah.

And unless something was extremely unusual about it, you know, it may not go much beyond.

The fire department shows up, the medical examiner shows up, but every one of them, you know, when we first respond to an unattended death or a sudden death, we have to treat it as if it's a crime until somebody says, no, it's not a crime.

So in your mother's case, you know, the normal process would happen is the call would come in to dispatch, you know, somebody found, you know, found them or whatever.

And we dispatch a unit.

They are a supervisor would be sent, a road sergeant would be sent.

They would assess the situation.

So

I want to ask what he thinks the likelihood is that Louise really learned this information from her cop buddy at a bar, as she claims.

Whether it's true or not, I don't know.

I would be shocked.

You know, you got to remember, you know, East Providence, not a big city.

Right.

That's why they call it townies, you know, it's really a big town.

And, you know, everybody knows everybody else.

So, you know, these kind of incidents, I mean, she, you know, your mother was friendly with a lot of people in East Providence and Riverside.