Mm-hmm.

And he said, "Let- let's find somebody up there we can talk to." So I did a little bit of research and found a name to contact, and it was a gentleman in their plastics group.

Uh, and I made an appointment for a consultation.

Went up and saw this g- this gentleman, and took my parents with me because I thought, oh, they need to be in the loop too, because frankly, this affects them as much as it affects me.

Uh, so we're, we're in.

He put- has me get on a, an exam table, and I roll over and, and he checks everything out.

I roll back over, sit up, and we're talking, and he says, "Here's the good news.

Mm-hmm.