Mm-hmm.

You know, there's so much data and so much information.

So it's, um, really important to be able to turn things off and to set boundaries and to walk away and to build in breaks for ourselves.

So those are really a lot of my strategies.

Um, one of the things that I did that I always joke and tell people, "You don't actually have to do this [laughs] if you don't want to," um, but for me, I did change my whole lifestyle.

Like I said, now I live up, up in the mountains.

I moved out of the city.

Right.