know so like yeah it's 30 years ago but it's fun like that is a snap they call it a record because it's a a recording of this moment in your life right like it's a record this is a snapshot so okay so the record must have been in the can for a little while is there is there anything else you're already like working on and like chomping at the bit for are you like just glad that this record's done you're about to hit the road with deer tick you're doing all this cool stuff you giving yourself a moment

i'm i'm kind of giving myself a moment i have like a few new songs but they're not they don't really belong to any sort of thing uh and i'm just sort of experimenting with becoming creative again because i think that i've found it really hard like With doing the release cycle with a label and with a full team thing now twice, I found it really hard to... be creative and like really make space for it and be like, no, not going to send emails today.

I am going to do my morning pages.

I am going to write for three hours today, like really just strong arm myself more than anything else to be like, this is sacred.

This is important.

This is my, like, my artists deserve this.

I deserve this.

Yeah.