So how, what was that shift? How did that happen?

Well, so I've always been really fascinated by skin biology, science, and all of that, you know, tying in together and just connecting the dots of just I get it and I understand it, and I just love it.

But mostly from my own experience, so like many teenagers, I struggled with really painful cystic acne, and I ended up needing some pretty strong hardcore medication to get it under control.

And it was really effective.

But, you know, that doesn't last forever and, you know, the skin journey continues.

And in my 20s, you know, acne came back.

It wasn't as severe, um, as it was before, but, you know, it was enough to leave me, you know, with acne scarring, which was always a constant reminder of, you know, the pain and suffering and, and going through that back, back in the day.

What are, like, the most effective treatments that you've seen that a- that address, um, like those, I would say, and correct me if I've, I'm wrong, the three big kind of conditions of aging, wrinkles, pigmentation, laxity? So what treatments, not skin, actually, um, help reverse some of those things?