So before we get started, Jo-Ann, can you tell us a little bit about who you are and what your relationship is with chemistry and chemistry education?

Well, thank you, Melissa.

I'm really happy to be here as well.

Um, I'm a chemistry professor at Hope College in Holland, Michigan, which is a liberal arts undergraduate-only institution.

And, um, in terms of sort of the connection to this upcoming conversation, early in my career I worked on a big NSF-funded systemic change in chemistry project, um, and that really introduced me to just the joy of working in community with other chemists on this, this kind of work.

Um, mid-career I kind of shifted gears a little bit and was very interested in interdis- interdisciplinary teaching and learning, and, uh, was able to work with some sort of like Howard Hughes Medical Institute funding to run a program at Hope College, uh, was able to work with the Carnegie Foundation as what was called a CASL scholar, and so it was a lot of fun.

And, um, uh, that's where I sort of got involved in, deeply in the scholarship of teaching and learning, or SoTL.

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