Mm

... that makes us form really deep connections with people because if we, for instance, ignore somebody's text or call, we feel that guilt, and that guilt is what causes us to act and reach out to them and repair relationships.

So in a way, guilt could be a very good thing.

Where it's not a good thing is when it is used for, um, uh, our identity and s- telling things about ourselves.

That's where it causes a lot of shame.

Like, if that guilt is, like, then telling you that you're a bad mom or that you can't do anything right, or I have to do everything in the house because, like, I, I'm not allowed to rest, my kids need me, that sort of thing, that's where that guilt gets a little bit out of control.

And so when you notice that, and you notice, "What am I saying to myself that may be making this guilt hard to deal with?" A lot of it comes to expectations that we have on ourselves.

How, like, how can moms kind of take that first step of kind of releasing guilt a little bit and releasing kind of that, that pressure, that expectation of reality and, and expectations not meeting?