yeah the swap next door yeah I love that from Bowie yeah from Bowie yep I feel like we could talk all day about your academy stories but I do want to get a little bit into your career and what you did post academy can you take us through how you want us to know what that career path was like a little bit until grad school and moving into that engineering field

Sure.

I mean, I went to a ship.

At that time, all graduates went to sea.

It was understood.

However, you should know that until sometime in our third class year, women were not assigned to cutters in the Coast Guard.

So we went through our entire fourth class year, I think.

And I think a majority of your classmates and peers probably were just focused on grad school, not having to manage however many other hundreds of things you were managing, which is just incredible of that multitasking kind of layer and just always getting everything done because you don't really have another option.