Can you explain what happened? What in the world are they doing? Like basically people just woke up and they didn't have healthcare coverage anymore because they weren't going to the doctor.

I know, you know, this is, we are really seeing, you'll recall that Dr. Oz came to this job from being a TV host.

I never watched his show, but I'm getting to watch it now as a healthcare policy observer.

And they've been on this show now for most of the year.

And Dr. Oz goes out there, the vice president goes out, but he goes out around the country, although especially he goes to blue states where they don't like the governors.

And he goes in and he makes videos about how he's taking down fraud.

He's taking down fraudsters.

What should we be expecting? Is this normal for industrialized nation?

Um, how much of Medicaid spending is given to dead people or people in the US illegally, and could that make up the types of cuts that Republicans say they're envisioning without cutting benefits?

Hmm, absolutely not.

Uh, undocumented people are not eligible for Medicaid, so you're not gonna get a lot of money there.

There's a very small amount of money that the federal government and state governments are spending, max four billion a year, to provide some funding for hospitals who cover uncompensated care for undocumented people.

So, that's a tiny fraction.

This is a critical point.

There are claims that we're only gonna target waste, fraud, and abuse.

A- and just explain what these trigger laws do.