Mm.

And, um, we actually ha- you had to write an application letter, and my application was very much around the fact that I had a family history.

I had had some brain issues in my late 30s after my dad passed away.

Um, and I really wanted to be using the skills that I was about to learn, hopefully, for prevention in women in their 30s and 40s, like going through perimenopause and menopause.

I was working in an integrated medicine clinic, and, you know, I was often being handed patients who were just being told by the GPs in that clinic, "Oh, do you know, you're just going through menopause," or, "You've just had a divorce," or, "You work full time and you've got three kids, and it's just stress." And I'm sitting there going, "This is such a load of garbage.

Like, this is not just stress." Right? So then I had that opportunity, and I was really lucky.

I trained basically with the senior teaching faculty at the Institute of Functional Medicine, so this was in California.

Mm-hmm.