Tell me how you got Simon Wright involved.

Yeah, because I used to play with, for five years I played with Chris Slade in the Chris Slade Steel Circle Band.

That was a band composed by some famous musician.

We had Gary Kelly from Alice Cooper, who is now with Night Ranger.

He's with Black Star Riders now.

and a dutch guy called uh leon hui from the band vengeance was leading and me on the other guitar so we for five years we toured europe and nice chris late uh got back with acdc for the rocker bus tour so uh we stopped the band and i started writing songs and uh when i had finished all my songs i took my time to very focus on uh on the harmonies and changing parts every time, so I took my time.

And in 2018, I called Simon Wright because Chris was busy with ACDC to do another ACDC cover band here in Europe.

we got here