How did you grapple with that yourself when you first started putting teams together or managing people? How did you resist the temptation to go on and impose your will on them?

I think it's very tough, to be frank.

And I also want to say something that is, I would say, maybe...

Brutally honest truth, not everyone is a good people manager as well.

For example, I come to my own truth that of course I can be a great people manager.

But compared to, for example, my current business partner, she is naturally a delegator.

So her default is to delegate.

So given that different approach, that entrepreneurial problem solving, spotting a niche, being reactive, what would you say entrepreneurs probably, what's their blind spots that they need to really just be aware of? What would you say was the blind spot of your co-founder, for example? Did he have any that you noticed that you filled in the gap?