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so I was like, "Oh, this is amazing, man." So he sends us the templates and stuff, and I've never been that good with, like, you know, technical templates and stuff anyway.

But I'm kinda, like, three days into this, this commission, and it was all, like, kinda y- what he wanted was, like, a kinda post-modern, um, almost a bit, like, Memphis-y style, '80s vibe.

You know, like, dots and colors and stuff like that.

And he's like, "Well, one, w- we're trying to get, like, you know, u- uh, under 25s into the, into the brand," sort of thing.

So I was like, okay.

Yeah, yeah.

Do you think that that freedom, that childhood where you were allowed to take risks very early on, do you think that helped?

Yeah.

Yeah, I, I do.

And I think, like, you know, um, I think, I, I...

Well, firstly, I had, like, a mum and dad, neither who were, were, w- were, um...

No, they weren't not, not into art, but they weren't creative anyway, anyway.

Me dad was a, was a fireman, Mum was a, a cleaner, and then she became, like, a, a...

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