Raising money from the same people or family offices or institutional investors who would normally be invested in funds too.

So today we've raised money from people who haven't been fund investors.

And although we do speak a lot to people who also invest in funds, but we've never quite made that work.

I think a lot of those will, as independent sponsors, becomes a more important thing.

I think we will see a lot of people who are traditionally seen as fund investors investing with independent sponsors on a deal-by-deal basis.

If you look at what's happened in the U.S., It's really been driven by the family offices.

And what I often hear from family office people is, my dad exited the business 20 years ago.

So what's attracting like you as an investor in that space, like a care market? In the UK?