Do you get clients from your podcast as well? Like actually from the podcast or do they maybe just hear you? You

know, it's, I'd say it's influential, but I would have a hard time doing a one-to-one correlation of, Oh, that person listened and then became a client, but I have my clients listen, many of them.

And so that makes them, it's sort of the post-purchase dissonance, if you will, like, oh, this is really credible.

Oh my God, that was a great guest.

And I'm part of that organization, which is cool.

So I haven't, I can't trace it one-to-one podcast to get member, but I know that I will talk again, like the book, I will talk to CEOs and they'll go, oh yeah, I listened to the podcast with so-and-so.

And I liked it.

great.