Is this issue of the narrative of the Democratic Socialists going to really play big here in Michigan and not just with the Senate race, but even across the board?

It's so hard to say, I think, because...

You've got a Trump-endorsed candidate, and I don't know where Michigan stands now.

I mean, it depends on what part of Michigan you drive through.

If you're in the cities, you're in Grand Rapids or Detroit, it's one thing.

If you drive, don't get off the freeway and drive in the forest because you see all kinds of Trump signs that kind of make you nervous.

But the thing is that affordability is, I was thinking as Nancy was talking, is is aspen sui generis i mean is this is there are so many affluent cities in this country where you cannot live if you're you know uh a retiree like some of us or if you just had a uh a media job that didn't put you on cbs um it's difficult i i don't think the candidates are speaking directly to it i think that They're trying to figure out what the majority of the electorate wants to hear, but they're not listening to what we are saying to them.

Okay.

Mm-hmm

... and, and really short grass, so, um, that was always fun having a big catcher in the front of the mower.

Uh, uh, the, uh, the lawns end up looking like a, like a putting green on a, on a golf course.

So, uh, stuff like that always intrigued me.

Uh, we had a vegetable plot in the back garden.

Um, that, that was good.

Um, so I had an interest.

Can you tell me about that?