So would you guys talk a little bit about what that was like for you during the competition?

Sure.

Well, I was there.

So, boy, my heart was pounding even the first time.

Right.

The first, what, it's two and a half days that you're on the ship, but there's this wonderful ship and so much to enjoy.

And we did, we enjoyed it, but there was a job to do.

to help.

So w- will you back up and tell us part of your story, your testimony, starting from a kid, uh, where maybe you come to know the Lord? But just take us through some of your journey.

Well, okay.

Just briefly, uh, I was, um, yes, I was raised up, uh...

Uh, I was born in '52, and, uh, therefore, I experienced a lot of the things that were going on as a young child.

And in the '60s, I was much more aware because, you know, 1963 was, uh, um, we had the children's march here in Birmingham.

I was, uh...

My mother would not allow me to go out there and march with the kids, but I was able to see a lot of it.

What do you think now with what's happening in America with this increase of Islam, and what should the church's response be to this?