Is it linked to comp? Is it not linked to comp? What are you seeing kind of emerging now as best practice in that space?

Well, uh, first on the comp question, which you mentioned, uh, it should not be linked to comp.

I've, I've never believed that the, you give someone an annual performance review, and then they have an expectation that they're gonna get some compensation related to that, and heaven forbid that it's formulaic, right? You get a 2.3 out of a 5 on your performance review, and that means you're gonna get a .06% pay increase.

No, no, no.

Stop that.

Don't ever do that.

The, these are separate and distinct things, and performance in particular, there are still organizations that like the annual performance review, but to be quite honest about it, the world doesn't operate that way today.

So the, the switch has now been to start to talk about how do we think about internal mobility and creating those skills? How should we start to change our mindset in HR from more of an inside-out perspective?

In a workplace increasingly shaped by AI, the organizations that thrive will be the ones investing in the human capabilities that technology can't replace.

As AI is increasingly integrated into

What are your thoughts on how leaders can promote workplace ability when a variety of employees are coming with very different experiences and often deeply personal ones, reactions to what's happening in the world?

Yeah, well, my answer to that is really tied to one of the central tenets of effective leadership, and that is an empathetic leadership style.

So when people walk in off the street to work every day in the way that you have described, you're absolutely right, Jerry.

They bring with them everything that is the lived moment for them from the time that they got home the night before.

They're walking into an environment now where they're bringing the last hours with them.

That's why workplaces need to be receptive and open and flexible and agile and collaborative and cooperative and a whole other list of words that are descriptive of what effective work cultures look like.