I myself spent nine years working for American Water, which is the largest investor-owned utility in the U.S. Do you think it is easier for investor-owned utilities to implement innovative new technology solutions into their enterprises than for public utilities to do so.

That's an interesting question, Paul.

And I'm not going to give you a straightforward answer.

How's that? So I would say this.

You don't have the formal barriers on the private side that maybe you do oftentimes on the public side.

Procurement can be a lot more straightforward.

Once a decision is made, you can move forward.

What's the you know, what's what's the goal? What's the business model?