yeah

and and yet we did and weaved it to be so and now i see so many of my long time lifelong friends just hung up and i'm like man i wish i could take you on the journey i've been on you know but They're not ready to even take the first step.

It's like, you know, so.

For me, what we're talking about is when life has so knocked us down that everything we believe about our relationship with God And his ability to come through is being challenged at the very core of that belief.

And that can be anything from death of a very close loved one to a divorce to a business failure.

You know, it takes on different forms, but it's the...

the thing that challenges all of the things that we confess to believe in, you know, God is good all the time.

Yes.