Mm-hmm.

And, and then he went to Saturday Night Live after Letterman, and, um, we shared an office for a year there, the year with, uh, Marty Short and, and, uh, Chris Guest.

Larry David was there.

Anyway, his, Larry's, uh, uh, uh, uh, Andy's wife is a documentary filmmaker, and, and the two of them had sort of been pushing this idea for a very long time, since like 2006.

And then finally, um, um, I, I, um, I was not anxious to do it, um, for a variety of reasons.

But finally, the pressure became a little too great starting around like 2020, 2021.

in, in the context of this conversation.

Well, I, I, to be honest with you, I remember, um, I had recommended when, when the original writers and cast left the show in May of 1980, uh, and Jean Doumanian took over as producer, I always got along pretty well with Jean.

[laughs]

And it was, it was, um, "And how about this? You've heard about the new, uh, you know, uh, space station, um, uh, new space station.

NASA spent $220 million on a camera that will take pictures from space.

And of all the pictures it took, this is the only one that came out." Now you just edit in the, the picture.

Go ahead, Jim.

Well, I was just gonna say, Burak, that one thing that I'd always observed, there's a couple things I've observed about, um, interests that are common to comedy writers, or at least not necessarily every comedy writer, but w- way this, uh, way more prevalent among comedy writers than the general public.

Um, one of them is, is an ability to, to do little cartoon caricatures, is, is about half of all the comedy writers I've known are pretty good at that.

I don't happen to be.

He would call things, "That's kind of a first-thought idea."

Mm-hmm.

Yeah, that would probably be, um, uh, the harshest I would get.

The other was the, um, do you remember when we had, when John Candy was on, a- and there was a wasp nest in the, [laughs] in the set? And I remembered the thing with you was [laughs] you would very often, we, w- I would try to talk you into doing things that you would laugh, you would laugh, laugh, and go like, [laughs] "I'm not gonna do that."

[laughs]

... uh, his, that he has.

Gives off an aura of someone, you know, that, that anyone would be honored to have as a friend.

I mean, that at least, I think that would disarm him.