Um, those are just my observations, and I'm, I am really interested to hear from you about what your members have been saying, what's it gonna look like in the future, and, and how big a deal is this really?

Um, well, uh, yeah, thanks for having me on.

Um, it, it, it is a massive deal.

Um, various people, I, I haven't maybe been quite this bold yet, but various people are saying it's the biggest sort of existential threat for golf.

Uh, certainly in England, I'm talking to you from England, uh, from the UK, um, water has been less of an issue the further north you get.

But certainly the north of England, where you and I are based, it has definitely been an issue this year, and it's, it's mainly only been probably the, the northern half of Scotland and, and, and some of Ireland that's had, that's had less challenges.

But that doesn't mean they won't in future.

What, what are we, what are you seeing in green keeping? Are, are robo mowers replacing people who would've been doing that by hand? Are they allowing people to go and do something more worthwhile? How is, what is happening on the ground in terms of green keeping teams?