Like that, that's, that's been something that's been there for a long time.

Yeah, and I, I remember like the year that we developed the Climber and the Magnus and the Verdict, when we were doing that development, I drew a Wyoming sheep tag and went through that exact experience where it's like I had, I had the prototype Climber that I, I took on that sheep hunt with me, and we, we, I killed a sheep at the top of the mountain and had to strap that rifle onto my backpack with 80 pounds of meat and a head, and my dad and I trailed down the mountain and it was, it was exactly that experience, and it was hard to hoist the pack up onto your back when you've got that rifle sticking up that far and, and that far below.

Um, so you know, that was definitely a, uh, a, an experience that kinda outlined the, the issues there with carrying that full-size rifle, just like you're talking about.

... for an engineer to really start coming alive, and he's there.

Yeah.

And getting into the gun industry a- and all that.

And so, uh, you know, he took that and ran with it, and then we've got, um, we brought Zach into our, um, prototype machining department and, uh, you know, given him an opportunity there to run our five-axis prototype machine.

And y- you know, those two working together w- um, with, with some other input, were able to come up with something really great and, and quickly.

But hopefully that will help engage a new crowd.

Yes, we certainly hope so.

When we started reviewing the Derby, we wanted to try and create an enclosure everywhere on this huge site for everyone.

If you want to wear your top hat and tails, you go to the Queen's Stand.

If you want to dress up in a nice smart suit and a nice dress, the Grand Stand.

We have a lower general admission enclosure in the upper Tatnam enclosure, but there's also this huge area called the Hill.

And sadly, late at night, I spent a lot of my time looking at old Derbys on YouTube when... between a half a million and a million people used to turn up and out there it's a real party of different things going on and the famous painting that's in the Tate Gallery will show you there's all sorts of different things that used to go on in the hill and we want to try and bring back a bit of the hill for everybody.

But what made you change? Was it just the numbers last year that you thought, no, we can't carry on like that?