I love the back, because it says, "No toxic positivity." What is that?

I think sometimes people, and I know I do it, too, you know, you put on a, a brave face when you're leaving.

You know? You're like, "Is everything okay?" No, so I'll just pretend, you know? And after a while, that really does start to eat at you, and I think that being able to be comfortable saying, "I'm not okay," is a big deal, and I don't think that a lot of us do it, or we don't have people that we feel comfortable doing it with.

And I think that that's part of what the moms were talking about with the teenagers, right? Like, our teenagers today are even more isolated than they used to be, which is a very strange statement, because they're more connected than they used to be, and that kind of is how a lot of society is.

Like, we can never un-connect, right? Our- we constantly have our email and our socials and all this stuff at our fingertips, and yet are we really connected to anyone, or is it all just surface? And I think that's part of the problem.

So having a place where you can be fully real and say everything that you think and not be worried that you're gonna get canceled is a big deal.

So what have you learnt about yourself through writing these books that you didn't expect to learn? Because you had to have some self-reflection in doing this.

Absolutely.