So are we allowed to start there?

Yeah.

So this is a great story and story always drives everything.

I had no idea when I was 25 that this story would literally drive my business.

But I grew up on a farm in central Illinois, one of five children.

I was the oldest girl.

So hard worker, Midwestern, pull up by the bootstraps, you know, all that kind of strength.

Tell us a little bit about what you're teaching now.

So as you were kind of embarking on this journey, what was kind of your, your take with that? Were you just kind of assuming that every house is going to have some form of water damage and how did you kind of stage or like rate that as far as if it was going to be a safe house or not?

Yeah.

So first of all, I'm looking in Colorado, we're a fairly dry state.

I mean, humidity in my condo and my house now is usually under 30%, sometimes as low as like 15%.

So this is in a dry state.

That's not super You know, moist like Miami or some of these places that are super, super humid.

And in my experience, I saw over 40 houses and these are pretty nice houses.

So like, how do you kind of deep dive to see what's really going on?

Yes

... that has a story.

So yeah, I'm no different.

I grew up on a farm in Illinois.

I was one of five children.

Uh, my nurse- my mother was a nurse who retired to take care of us five kids, and, you know, mostly idyllic life on a farm with multiple acres and a garden, fresh food, and all these wonderful things.

And unbeknownst to me, that farm environment was slowly killing me.

Sure

So once you kind of got the diagnosis of breast cancer, like what were the next steps? Because there's a whole process of you going and getting treated and how one thing led to another with your health.

Yeah.

So of course the diagnosis was a shock and that was the big turning point of doctor to patient.

And I always say now those really difficult things.

And if you're out there listening, I feel like so many people are in crisis, whether it's a relationship breakup or a financial crisis or a job loss, or, and I could name 101 other things when crisis happens.

The biggest thing that we can learn is to embrace the uncertainty it brings and also the lessons that it brings, because often we look back and we say, oh, that was actually really, really good.

And I look back now.

How has it affected how you clinical insight, but also how you care for people?

Right.

So that makes a successful remediation.

Then your body, what do you do with this? Because when you inhale mycotoxins or mold into your body, you can either become colonized in the sinuses or the gut, but not everybody's colonized.

Sometimes you just get exposure and immune system goes haywire.

But whatever it is, you need to get those toxins out of your tissues, into the bloodstream, where the liver and the kidney and the skin and the lungs can filter.

So we focus a lot on the liver/gallbladder pathway because this is a real easy way to address this, and what you wanna do is increase production of glutathione.

You either take it, you can do it IV, you can do it liposomal.

Yeah

I'm like,

holy cow, what did I get myself into? And at the base, he literally, that was my lesson, 10 minutes, okay, here's the carabiners, here's what you do, you're gonna have to basically, he was the lead.

And so he would go and place the ropes and the safety, I don't even know the names of all these things, the things that would stick into the rock and hold the rope so that if he fell, he would fall and my hold would, you know, hold him from falling and the same thing for me.

He would climb up and then I had to climb behind him and take these out of the rock and, you know, follow his lead.

And my first, like, I went up just a few feet.

I like fell, scraped my hands, started bleeding.

I'm like, oh no.

But what are some other toxins you talk about in the book that listeners could be and should be avoiding?

Tell me about the time in between these and how you related to yourself and these conditions before you became the doctor and the leader helping other people.

Yeah, so as many of the classical heroes journey, we don't really know what we are or who we came into this world to be until we start to face adversity and suffering.

And so part of my story isn't just, oh, yeah, I had cancer and overcame it and learned.

It's actually how do we all, every single one of us every day has these difficulties that are seeming insurmountable.

And so part of my goal is not just medically, but spiritually, emotionally, physically, and otherwise, how do we actually teach people zillions and how to deal with these things? So for me, it was cancer at 25.

And for the reference of your listeners, 25-year-old cancer, it's like one in a million.

I won the lottery.

I want to hear of you feeling totally in alignment in your best gifts, making an impact in the world, a time where you were really validated for this curiosity, for this transformation, and you were making an impact in your practice and also feeling the spiritual alignment of being able to be human and take care of humans.

What are your views on that as it comes out in the news?

Yeah, so if we go back to even COVID, what happened is it just revealed a defect.

So a stress test, right? You have heart disease.

You're walking around, you think you're fine.

You get on a treadmill.

They put you on the Bruce protocol, and they raise that treadmill up, and they make you go faster, faster, faster to stress your heart, and they reveal an abnormal EKG or an abnormal pattern of your heartbeat and say, "Oh my goodness, you're gonna die of a heart attack.

Let's go take you to the cath lab." So a stress test is just something that reveals an underlying defect that was already there.

Uh, I wanna know about your story, uh, because you have a pretty cool story, and I'd love you to share it with us.