What's the, like, what's the place to actually hill climb to like get to the place where you start to see, you know, robots folding laundry successfully in like most cases, or like, actually, are we, are we already there? And maybe I'm not like fully calibrated on

model progress in this regard.

So there is a lot of progress in the last 10 years.

So one thing that you mentioned is locomotion or whole body control has reached a new height where you see the humanoid robots that can, you know, backflip and doing very agile motions.

Also, our team sort of pioneered a research called reinforcement learning and similar transfer that makes all those things happen.

So it seems that the locomotion is nearly a solved problem.

What's remaining is actually a very hard problem is dexterous manipulation, which is that how can you use a hand or grippers to interact with all these objects in order to accomplish the task in your daily life? The reason that's very complicated is because it's very contact rich.

But have we gotten closer to being able to actually leverage some of the existing non-robotics data to do