Mm-hmm

...

but these micro, micro exposures to trauma.

But even just the rush of a call coming in, going from fast asleep to jumping into action, all of those things can trigger this cortisol release, and that in itself is not a problem.

But when it happens shift after shift and you never get that recovery time, your body really doesn't even have a chance, and the cortisol, it stays chronically elevated, suppressing the testosterone production, further disrupting sleep, putting them at higher risk for diabetes as it pushes their glucose level.

And so it's just this, this constantly compounding picture.

The shift work and the sleep is a huge driver because the circadian disruption, it, it affects the whole endocrine system, but it's not the whole story.

... do you use the Nutrival that way too to kind of help them with dietary changes and supplements?

Okay.

I was 47, and I was like, "Okay, I'm in it." I've always been one to be self-taught.

I've always loved research.

I love to read studies.

I'm, I have a very, like, medical-oriented mind, so that isn't, that is, that's fun for me.

That's fun to do a deep dive into that.

So I did, and, um, then we started, Kiora started, uh, which is founded by Pearl and Serene, the Trim Healthy Mamas.

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