It's really fun.

I can't believe that this is what I get to do.

I really can't believe it because it kind of encompasses everything.

It encompasses community, friendship, creativity.

I'm a total creative.

So getting to kind of lead our creative team.

And then I love leading other creatives too and giving them the opportunity to be creative and to get to uh, work with our artisans.

Did you have like a background in either fashion or business or something when you created this company?

Do you have advice for anyone who is looking to build community or lead people because you've been able to do that so well?

Yeah, you know, it was interesting just listening to you at lunch because we were a direct sales company and we no longer are.

So we're scaling in a whole new way now.

Post COVID, the direct sales industry had an industry-wide extinction event.

So places like Beauty Counter, Stella and Dot, I mean, even Tupperware has declared bankruptcy.

So we really have this container that took place in direct sales where people were gathering women in their homes and they were selling that way.

We're sunsetting that program and we're now building community through creators, through a wholesale program.

So raising kids because noonday